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Somebody out there really claimed that washing his butt would “make him gay,” and we had to unpack the whole idea from the ground up. We go from hygiene and bidets to the deeper stuff hiding underneath: shame, fragile masculinity, and why taking care of your body should never feel like an identity crisis. Along the way, we share a garden surprise involving a truly enormous zucchini, because life insists on keeping us humble.
Then we catch up on summer life in Denver, including Pride from our favorite balcony perch, the shifting mood when our LGBTQ community feels pressure, and our very honest hobby at Washington Park: “watching the puppies” (translation: appreciating sweaty joggers while we snack). We also talk theater nights with The Sound of Music, camping with friends from the Pride48 community, and the chaos of snow and hail storms that push us to rebuild and reimagine our backyard space.
The heart of the conversation lands on a line that hits hard: you marry the best parts of a person and hope you can tolerate the rest. We connect it to friendship, long-term partnership, Al‑Anon lessons, and the freedom that comes from accepting a truth we all fight at some point: you cannot change other people. We close with Madonna’s Confessions 2, the healing power of music, and why dancing has always been a lifeline in gay culture and chosen family.
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Levels Mics And Getting Started
SPEAKER_05You're doing the recording engineer part.
SPEAKER_04Turn the headphones down and I can turn the mic down.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. The bouncy line thing, we should be equal.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, see, which we're not. Now now you talk.
Butt Washing And Fragile Masculinity
SPEAKER_06This is enormous with your hosts Harley and KC.
SPEAKER_04I was listening to a podcast the other day. Maybe it was a talk show. I'm not exactly sure. Okay. But something like that. Right. They were fielding questions from listeners. All right. And how did that make you feel? The feel fielding or feel feeling? Feeling. I didn't have a feel yet, but I'm about to.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. I better watch out.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So what happened was that uh someone had asked the question, they said that well, they had given this response. They said, I don't like washing my ass crack because I don't want to stick soap and my hand in there because that makes me gay.
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_04So right, so so there was this whole big discussion about it, which w was also dumb. And my guess was that this was all straight people, but that's just I'm just having a guess there. Right. That we're having this discussion. And because my response was if I would have been there, I would have said to this dude, well, then no more masturbating. Because if you're gonna put your straight male hand on your straight male penis, that also then now makes you gay. You touch those two things together. That's true. So your theory is kind of stupid. Do you agree or disagree?
SPEAKER_05Hmm. Well, I would say that I was born really totally gay. Oh yeah? Every photo I've ever seen of myself my entire life to me looks really gay. I didn't like to touch my butt cart because I thought it was dirty. Oh, okay. But when I got over that, it was fine. So I I don't think it has anything to do with being gay.
SPEAKER_04Right. It's just a hygiene thing. It's a hygiene thing. And a cleanliness thing. Right.
SPEAKER_05But at this point in my life, you know, being as old as I am, you know, any sensation back there is wonderful.
SPEAKER_04Well, I don't know, I don't think I get a sensation much other than the f the happy fact that I've cleaned myself back there. Uh-huh. Although also this is a bidet household. So generally speaking, we're pretty clean back there all the time. Uh-huh. Because if you stay ready, you don't gotta get ready.
SPEAKER_05So Sarge was a bidet person until something happened and he stopped bideting, I think.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. Well, it's not I don't I think it's not for everybody.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I think it is.
SPEAKER_04Oh, you do? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I think everybody should do it.
SPEAKER_04But uh I don't know. I'm now that's what I'm used to. So even like when we go camping, it seems odd to me to not have that capability. Yeah. So is that it? Is that it? Is that it?
SPEAKER_05Does it make you gay to touch your butt?
SPEAKER_04Uh no. The answer would be no.
SPEAKER_05The answer is no. What makes you gay is saying that you don't want to touch your butt because it makes you gay.
SPEAKER_04That makes him really gay. And touching somebody else's butt, that might that might also if you wanted to soap and lather somebody else's butt crack, maybe maybe that's gay.
SPEAKER_05Do you ever touch your own butt pretending it's somebody else's butt? I can't say as I have. Really? You don't you don't like you don't get a hankering for something and you know substitute something else?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. That's not my that's not my jam, as they say.
SPEAKER_05Oh. Oh, that did make me think of something though. What? Substituting something else?
The Giant Zucchini Surprise
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_05Sarge. We have a garden. We have a mostly vegetable. Well, no, it's flowers and vegetables. But this doesn't sound like a segue, but it is.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_05Sarge, you know, we have two zucchini plants. And we've been very good about cutting them off, and we have more zucchini than we can eat, and I'm making zucchini bread and giving away as much as I can. Delicious. So we try not to let them get too big, you know, like maybe six or eight inches, ten inches. But those things, I don't know what about what it is about zucchinis. You can blink, and they're like a foot long. They grow overnight.
unknownOh god.
SPEAKER_05So Sarge walks in the house the other day. He walks home from work every day, and this particular day he stopped at the garden on the way in. And uh I was in the kitchen doing something. I turned around and he walks in with this huge zucchini. I'm not kidding. It must have been 24 inches long, and I'd say the diameter was six inches. Circumference must have been like a foot or foot and a half or two feet or something. It was huge. I said, Where the hell did that come from? I just checked. And Sarge says, Well, it was hiding underneath, and when I moved the vine because it was blocking the pathway in the garden, it exposed itself.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_05So it was totally protected. Nobody saw it. We didn't. But I will have to say though that I did put my hand around it to see what it felt like, how big it was. So what have you been up to besides uh thinking about the butts and besides washing my butt?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, a lot of things we've been up to, I think, uh, since we last talked, which has been a while
Denver Pride From The Balcony
SPEAKER_04now. I know uh the Denver Pride happened. Oh, that's right. So we were on your balcony for pride. That is the best spot. It's a really, really good spot. We're shaded by that tree, but we still have a full view. We're one story off of the ground. Yeah, so we're out of the fray of it all. They throw treats at us. They we still get treats thrown at us, and well, we make a spectacle of ourselves, so they notice that we're up there. Right. That's important. Uh-huh. And uh it's early in the parade, so they have lots of energy. We have access to the kitchen and the bathroom and uh privately, and so that's great. And we had the the uh Margaritaville was running, making margaritas for us, and it was nice, it was really nice. Now I would say the parade was kind of a uh uh him ha today. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05What did you think about it? It's interesting the mix of people that not just watch the parade, but that actually in the parade. There's a lot of older gay men and a lot of women of all ages, but not a lot of younger gay men.
SPEAKER_04Hmm. I wasn't I guess I wasn't noticing that demographic so much.
SPEAKER_05A good contingent of trans and organizations that, you know, sort of help defend trans people, which I think is great.
SPEAKER_04I just didn't feel like anybody was terribly excited this year or you know, just super duper great time. I don't know. It was okay. It just wasn't it just wasn't fabulous.
SPEAKER_05Our community has been under pressure lately. Yeah. So yeah, I understand that. But it may be our last year for watching the parade from that balcony.
SPEAKER_04Uh-oh. What happened?
SPEAKER_05Uh, moments ago, just before we started recording, I signed the lease and someone is renting it.
SPEAKER_04Oh, well, that's good though.
SPEAKER_05It is good. It has to be a good thing. I need the money. I am re almost retired.
SPEAKER_04And uh So we'll have to find somewhere else to watch it from. Mm-hmm. Where we have access to a balcony and electricity.
SPEAKER_05Yep, that's right. Well, we do have another summer activity. Well, a fair weather activity that we do, and that's watching the dogs. Yeah, we do. The puppies. We're talking about the park
Washington Park Puppy Watching Confessions
SPEAKER_05picnic. Yeah, we like to go to Washington Park. Yeah, we just did one of those. Yeah, and there's a great big paved loop around it. And some people jog and some people um walk their dogs and some people ride their bikes.
SPEAKER_04It's directional too. They direct everyone to go counterclockwise around the park. So what do we do? So we watch the the dogs and the people.
SPEAKER_05Our puppy expression and dog name is really uh uh what do you call it? Are you gonna out us? Yeah, I'm gonna out you. Okay. What do you call it? It's not a non deplume.
SPEAKER_04Some it's uh uh when we say we're watching the puppies.
SPEAKER_05We mean we're looking for hot men.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there you go. All right, just say it like it is.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's sunny, there's people jogging, they're sweaty, they're muscular.
SPEAKER_04We're watching the men jogging around the park in a counterclockwise fashion.
SPEAKER_05And uh you and Mister bring a folding table and we have kind of brunchy food and maybe some prosecco. Yeah. Trader Joe's has this really good peach prosecco, which is delicious. Yep. Yummy. It was fun. The next step is to get cards to hold up for a rating.
SPEAKER_04Oh, ratings ten through zero or something.
SPEAKER_05I have to tell you, when you see six senior men sitting in folding chairs in a semicircle facing the jogging trail, uh, that makes a few people uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_04It might. It just might. But we're doing it anyway, we don't care. And something we just did Sunday? This past Sunday, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sound Of Music Night Out
SPEAKER_04We went to the theatre. We saw the heels of alive with the sound of music. Did you say the heels? I did. I was trying to uh affect my Julie Andrews kind of expressionism.
SPEAKER_05Somebody with a with a voice as as big of a range as her, but that's They were good.
SPEAKER_04They were really good.
SPEAKER_05They were all good. You know, I've seen that movie many times. And when I was a kid when it first came out, I wore the album out. The vinyl album, literally, I wore the grooves out.
SPEAKER_04No, it's Rogers and Hammerstein, right?
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh. Some people don't like that traditional stuff. Right. So I've never seen it on stage, and so much better than that movie with the R.
SPEAKER_04It's kind of stylized, but some of it I really like actually in the movie. Yeah. The where the Captain and uh Maria are kind of in the dark, you know, singing to each other and they're just kind of silhouetted in the gazebo. I like that in the movie. Uh so uh uh uh in my wicked childhood, I must have done something good. Oh, right by singing to each other. Right. Is that when he fingers her? Quite possibly. Oh, it's very dark in the movie, so you can't really tell.
SPEAKER_05Does she stick her hand in his pocket?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't believe so.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay. I'm thinking of a different movie.
SPEAKER_04You must be. They did a good job of it.
SPEAKER_05I'm thinking of the sound of jizzik.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that's a different one. What else have we done? Oh, a
Camping With Pride48 Friends
SPEAKER_04few things. Well, I mean I went camping this summer and a few times, and one time uh we had company while camping, which was really camping, camping, which was really fun. You know, I could act surprised.
SPEAKER_05I could go, no, who'd you have? Yeah, you see. Somebody, somebody from the community?
SPEAKER_04From the Pride 48 community, out of town. All the way, they came all the way from Florida. Wow, and who was it? That was DJ Ron and Gary. I knew that.
SPEAKER_05I was just faking.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know. We did we don't we don't say Gary with the two R's. No. We say Gary with the good hair because Gary has great hair. He does have great hair. So, yeah, so we say DJ Ron and Gary with the great hair, and we had a really good time. What other things have you done?
SPEAKER_05What other things have I done? Well, not much. Well,
Snow Hail And Backyard Repairs
SPEAKER_05let's see. We had a uh a snowstorm which uh took out some really big branches on our almost hundred-year-old ash tree in the front yard, and we had to have that pruned. Less than a month later, we had a hailstorm, and the hailstones were about an inch and a quarter. They were not golf ball size, but not little. Close. Right. And so we had it damaged our roof. They totaled our gazebo, it damaged the fence, decimated the garden, which about killed Sarge. I mean, Sarge was really upset. I felt so bad for him.
SPEAKER_04It's come back really good though, I think.
SPEAKER_05So we finally got the roof replaced last Friday, and on Saturday, the gazebo that was totaled by the insurance company, we gave to a neighbor. They don't have anything in their backyard, and so we took it apart. Well, Sarge did with some neighbors' help, and uh carried it a few doors down. That's a big job. Uh-huh. And then we set up a new pergola. And the problem was with the gazebo, and I'm glad they totaled it, was that the garden back there was not getting any light. It shielded the sun too much. You know, all the stuff we'd planted was dying. What's really nice about it is because of the way it's made, the fins can open and close.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_05So when they're closed, they're rainproof. And when they're open, you get full sun. So you can shade yourself or sun yourself too. Or or let the garden have 25% sunlight or something like that.
SPEAKER_04Right. That's good.
SPEAKER_05We put up the pergola, there's a few adjustments, and we just love it. It totally changed the background.
SPEAKER_04That's great. I haven't seen it yet.
SPEAKER_05So you said Gary has really
Baldness Wigs And Mom Advice
SPEAKER_05great hair. Right. And he does. And I have no hair. Right. But I have always thought about fake hair.
SPEAKER_04I think those of us that don't have much or any do think about that from time to time.
SPEAKER_05So I started going bald when I was 30. So by the time I was 40, I was completely shaved, head bald. When I was thinking about fake hair, it brought back a memory of Maxine, my mom.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_05Maxine uh had a hairdresser, and I don't remember what his name was, but she'd been going to him for a year, year and a half, maybe. She really liked him. He's good looking, he was gay, and every time I'd go to visit her, she'd tell me about this guy. This would be like 1997.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_05So she'd tell me all about her gay hairdresser and how much fun and the jokes he told her and blah blah blah. And she just loved him to pieces. One day, my mom went in and her hairdresser walked up and she looked at him and she was sort of shocked, and he was bald. And she didn't know what to say. She didn't know if maybe he was having chemo or something terrible had happened, and he must have seen the way she was looking at him. And he says, Oh, are you think wondering where my hair went? And she said, Yeah. And he said, Well, um, when I was in c in high school, I started losing my hair. So in my twenties, when I became a hairdresser, I decided to get replacement hair. And not plugs or anything, but just basically a wig. Right. You know, a toupee. And uh my mother said, I never noticed. She said, I still when I think about it, it looked totally real.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_05And he said, Well, it wasn't. And after as many years, I think he's in his forties then, after 20 years of maintenance and cleaning and removing and trimming and buying replacement ones and all that kind of stuff. I think I I decided to try bald for a while and just see how I went. And she said to him, She said, Well, you know, you look fantastic either way. I don't know what I like better. So my mom was telling me this story, and she knew that I was a little sensitive about my bald head. She said, Do you think you would ever get a hair up replacement hair, a hair system? I said, I don't know. To me, it's like a hair hat. I said, Do you think it would look good? She says, Well, it would look like you had hair. That's, you know, you you look good either way. She said, but do whatever you want because I think you're beautiful, no matter what you look like. That's exactly what a mom should say. Yeah, and so I thought that was really cool. Yeah. So besides loving tinfoil and all her other quirky habits, uh, Maxine was a pretty, pretty good mom. I I hadn't remembered her telling me that specifically. That's nice. And I think it's beautiful. So now you had a quote you wanted to discuss.
Marrying The Best Parts
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it really came from the watching the end of Euphoria, the final season of Euphoria.
SPEAKER_05That was a big deal for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_04It was not, it was real hard on me. It took me a couple days to shake it off. I didn't like, I did not like the way it ended. It ended as it should have, I'm sure. Somebody died. Yeah, that's the only way to end it. If you're talking uh, spoiler, if people haven't watched the end of euphoria, but if you're if if it's about a you know, a drug addict going through years of trying to recover and you're trying to be real about it, you're not trying to tie it up with the pretty red bow at the end. Yeah. It might be likely that they're gonna die. But I didn't think I didn't think about that the whole three seasons that I watched it. I didn't think that's what was gonna happen. That's the reality. And that and the reality slapped me in the face real hard, and I got I got invested. That was one where you got invested in the character. Yeah. But uh but the at the very end in the in that final season, someone said a quote that I thought you and I should talk about, and that was that you marry the best parts of a person, right, and hopefully you can tolerate the rest. And I thought that that's kind of profound with all relationships, even your friends or whatever, you become invested in your friend probably in the beginning for their best parts. Yeah. But as you know them better, you know, hopefully you tolerate the rest. Yeah. And I and I have friends like that too that my partner will say, Why do you like that person? You know, well, I g I think that's why. Yeah, I'm invested in those good parts of that person and the other parts maybe that's other people don't like so much. I I've figured out a way to tolerate them.
SPEAKER_05Well, you and I tolerate each other.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_05There are things there are definitely things that drive you crazy about me and vice versa. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. And we just accept them as part of the person. That's the that's how friendship works, I think. You know, when I was in a long-term relationship and I was with someone that uh I ended up leaving because the relationship we had was very codependent, and alcohol was related in the it was was involved in the relationship. Okay. And so I just had to leave. But what during that process of of learning and growing stronger and deciding that I was gonna leave this person that was I think 14 years is a long time, and I think that almost made it harder.
SPEAKER_04Maybe, maybe if sooner and newer, that might be easier.
SPEAKER_05But well, I tried for about twelve of those fourteen years to leave. Right. And we were in couples counseling and all this kind of stuff. Ultimately, what made me leave was I went to Al Anon, which is for people who know who family and friends of people that are alcoholics. I learned something very important. You've got two choices with an alcoholic. You can accept them. So there you go, with your tolerating the worst parts, and loving them exactly as they are, right, or you can leave.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_05And that was, oh God, that was like 28 years ago. I realize now that that's the same with all people. You cannot change anyone. No.
SPEAKER_04It's a hard lesson, I think, when we're younger, because we think we can get hang out with somebody or get with somebody and then maybe change them, mold them a little bit into what we what we want them to be or what we thought they were in the very, very beginning and they're really not.
SPEAKER_05Here's the other part. When you're someone like me that was raised in an alcoholic family, we think that every the what everything that everybody else does is related to us. If the alcoholic gets mad, it's our fault. If we if we don't make the alcoholic happy, then he's gonna get mad, or she's gonna get mad. And so I was raised in a history of that, and and that kind of codependency is really bad. So we're always trying to fix things. We always think things can be better. But the reality is that you ultimately can't change the other person, right? And when you realize that when you go through life, God, it makes it so much better. You say, I have this friend, and it really drives me crazy that he's always scratching his buttons and and uh And not washing it with soap and water. And not washing it with soap and water because he thinks it's gay. But we have these great convers conversations about philosophy or art or whatever. So that part I really like. And you say, well, I'll put up with the you know the not butt washing so that I can have all the good parts. Right. And I think that's the same with everyone and relationships. So yeah, we do marry the best parts of us.
SPEAKER_04I thought it was a profound little statement. I didn't it was kind of sort of a side statement to everything that was happening in that show, but uh but I I wrote it down because I just kind of like it.
SPEAKER_05That's really great. And the last part, but you tolerate the parts some of it's toleration. Tolerate is a it's a it's a strong word, but there's lots of ways to tolerate. So you can ignore it. Right. You can work on trying to accept it. I mean there's all sorts of ways of tolerating, but there's definitely good parts and bad parts, and we don't see the bad parts when we're when we first start a relationship.
SPEAKER_04And the uh and the and the final thing I think we should say about that is you need to. Turn that around on yourself, maybe sometimes too. And go and go, oh, my person is tolerating my horrible parts, but you know, kind of kind of expecting or appreciating the the great parts of me. So maybe I should try to be do better sometimes.
SPEAKER_05The interesting part about that is as someone growing up as a child of an alcoholic, we do that all the time. Because we always think we're the problem.
SPEAKER_04Oh, they're yeah, well, you shouldn't think we're the problem, but but uh if you if you turn around and say someone else that that uh that someone else is appreciating me for my best parts. That's great. And tolerating my worst parts. That's great that they're doing that about me too. I know I'm not perfect.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm just glad that stars puts up with my large bank account. Okay. My enormous My enormous intellect. I'm glad you're pleasing personality. That's why I go to my I've at the toleration point of the day. I think I have to get away from it. Well, I think that's a good place to stop that conversation. We probably should. Let's move on to our very last piece. We're going a little long, but I think we did much better.
SPEAKER_04Okay, we can wrap it up. We need to do the soundtrack of our
Madonna Dancing And Gay Joy
SPEAKER_04life. It has to be another, because why?
SPEAKER_05Because she just released a new album called Confessions 2. Yeah, and it was a gift to everyone outraged to grow up with her.
SPEAKER_04Well, it gave us a lot of feels, probably a lot of feels. It brought back a lot of great memories, and uh it also reminded us of things of how we should feel, even though things are rough and hard and and difficult right now. Kind of reminded us to go back to a time when when we could feel free.
SPEAKER_05I saw that first song. And I realized that she was singing about the power, the spiritual energy of music and dancing. Right. And I think of all the things that the gay community really has that a lot of other people miss is this intense connection to music. There's a big one. I mean, for years I've been going to dance clubs with great big speakers and big woofers. And when that music's going, besides going deaf, you can feel it. I was just gonna say that's why we both can't hear anymore.
SPEAKER_04Because of those big speakers.
SPEAKER_05But there's nothing like it.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know what I remember? I remember this. I remember the first time I heard someone say, I don't know where this came from, but somebody will tell us that somebody will contact us and tell us what they said and dance like nobody's watching. And I was kind of surprised by put off by that. I thought, well, that's a that's what? That's how I always dance like nobody's watching that, you know, and also like everybody's watching. Both of those things, right? I dance like nobody's watching and everybody's watching at the same time because that's how we danced. I didn't dance every time we in our generation two, we went to funerals in the daytime and danced in the nighttime, you know. So dancing's an important thing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, very important thing. But what I wanted to say was that when you're in that crowd and you're all feeling the same vibrations, I don't think any generation before us or after a school experience.
SPEAKER_04No, I I I think of the whole tracks here in Denver kind of as the great example with the two full walls of floor-to-ceiling mirrors, and then that one open area with the with the glass with all those uh with the amplifiers behind it that were that were practically a whole story tall with all those colored lights and stuff flashing. I don't know even what all that was. It was a lot, remember? It was a big, a big bank of amplifiers and so forth. Just that you could see there from the dance floor, and then of course the the DJ was above above those.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It was amazing.
SPEAKER_05Sergeant and I used to go to an after hours club called uh Amsterdam.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It made a major mark on our lives. Walking in that place was like walking into a spaceship that would take you to a perfect place.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I know exactly. And I just remember the first time I went to the Broadway whenever I first moved to Colorado. It just made me feel like I just felt like I belonged there. Like I had never felt before. It was magic. I got it. I know your song.
SPEAKER_05I feel so free.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I knew you were gonna pick that one because that's the way you were describing that experience.
SPEAKER_05I think that speaks to so many people.
SPEAKER_04I know what song I'll pick from that album. I'll pick from the same new album. Whatever. I'm gonna pick dance area because that's the name of a real club. A real dance club. Oh, yeah. Way back down in New York City. Uh and in that song, Madonna kind of talks about going to that club, does name dropping of all her friends and so forth that she knew and that she met when she was first she wasn't even quite yet famous, just kind of becoming that way. So it's good. It's good to listen to if you like to listen to the words. What do you think about this album? Oh I I love it. Do you think it's her last one? I'll say best about that. Was this last song? The first time I heard it made me cry. And I was wailing to Mr. I said, Is it over? It's over? I didn't want it to be over. So but it's uh if you listen to the last song, it kind of sounds like it really sounds like the last song.
SPEAKER_05So my personal feeling is that it is.
Kindness Connection And Closing
SPEAKER_05Any words for our listeners at the end of this rare episode? Do you like it? Rare, medium, or well.
SPEAKER_04This one's a rare one for sure. I would say that my closing words this time would be be kind to others and yourself, and also take your tough dancing. Yeah, I like that. Even if it's just in your own house. Dance.
SPEAKER_05Put on some loud music. Dance. If you don't feel good, dance. Just make it if you want to. If you want. Or don't. I mean, whatever whatever makes you feel like you want to dance. Okay. Just remember that we're all connected. We're all human. We all have feelings. Give people the opportunity to show their good stuff.
SPEAKER_04Okay, well. Until next time, remember to be kind and like us.
SPEAKER_00This podcast is a private member of the Pride Forty-eight Podcasting Network. Check out more great shows at Pride Forty-eight.com. Are you finished?
SPEAKER_02Not yet.
SPEAKER_03Well, everybody likes a little piece at the end.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm finished.
